The Community Centre Bar - goldenlaneestate.org2024-03-28T15:12:19Zhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?commentId=2323372%3AComment%3A46755&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noHi Alan,
I am sorry to co…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-22:2323372:Comment:467552015-08-22T12:24:56.160ZPablo Casais Solanohttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/PabloCasais
<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p> I am sorry to correct you but what you are saying is not true. As I saw with my own eyes the Community Centre was far from closed at 11.30pm. At 00:27 the doors of the Centre were wide open and there was people going in and out making noise, If the Community Centre has a bar and want people having drinks they should at least behave like a proper bar and make sure everyone is out by 11:30pm and close their doors which did not happen that Saturday.</p>
<p> About the CoL…</p>
<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p> I am sorry to correct you but what you are saying is not true. As I saw with my own eyes the Community Centre was far from closed at 11.30pm. At 00:27 the doors of the Centre were wide open and there was people going in and out making noise, If the Community Centre has a bar and want people having drinks they should at least behave like a proper bar and make sure everyone is out by 11:30pm and close their doors which did not happen that Saturday.</p>
<p> About the CoL Police I agree with you, their response to the incident was regrettable at least. They did not take any actions with the offenders and let them stay in the Estate disturbing their residents until far too late.<br/> <br/> <cite>Alan Line said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?id=2323372%3ATopic%3A47014&page=2#2323372Comment47107"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><div class="xg_user_generated">Spoke to a nice police inspector just now, re the party in the club....I can't say what we said but, needless to say, who ever took the booking for this event should be held responsible!!!</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>WRONG</strong> - the Community Centre was actually closed at 11.30pm. It was the responsibility of the useless, part-time Keystone Cops(sorry - City of London Police) to remove those causing a public disturbance especially when it is on PRIVATE PROPERTY. Unfortunately people join the CoL Police (in preference to a real police force) so that they can work 9-5 Mon-Fri and won't have to deal with anything more dramatic than putting a pis**d-up City Boy on the train home when they do their "once-a-month late shift.</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated">So carry on talking to "your important friends" in the Police mate (though you can't tell us what was said) - just remember they are only Toytown Coppers who need the help of a real police force when ther's any trouble.........</div>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Bijou said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?xg_source=activity#2323372Comment47019"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Spoke to a nice police inspector just now, re the party in the club....I can't say what we said but, needless to say, who ever took the booking for this event should be held responsible!!!</div>
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</blockquote> Ill have you know its a Grad…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-21:2323372:Comment:471962015-08-21T17:10:09.272Znathanhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/nathan
<p> Ill have you know its a Grade 2 listed council estate, and why one block is even Grade 2 * listed.</p>
<p> Ill have you know its a Grade 2 listed council estate, and why one block is even Grade 2 * listed.</p> Spoke to a nice police inspec…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-21:2323372:Comment:471072015-08-21T14:08:31.103ZAlan Linehttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/AlanLine
<div class="xg_user_generated">Spoke to a nice police inspector just now, re the party in the club....I can't say what we said but, needless to say, who ever took the booking for this event should be held responsible!!!</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>WRONG</strong> - the Community Centre was actually closed at 11.30pm. It was the responsibility of the useless, part-time Keystone Cops(sorry - City of London Police) to remove those causing a…</div>
<div class="xg_user_generated">Spoke to a nice police inspector just now, re the party in the club....I can't say what we said but, needless to say, who ever took the booking for this event should be held responsible!!!</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><strong>WRONG</strong> - the Community Centre was actually closed at 11.30pm. It was the responsibility of the useless, part-time Keystone Cops(sorry - City of London Police) to remove those causing a public disturbance especially when it is on PRIVATE PROPERTY. Unfortunately people join the CoL Police (in preference to a real police force) so that they can work 9-5 Mon-Fri and won't have to deal with anything more dramatic than putting a pis**d-up City Boy on the train home when they do their "once-a-month late shift.</div>
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<div class="xg_user_generated">So carry on talking to "your important friends" in the Police mate (though you can't tell us what was said) - just remember they are only Toytown Coppers who need the help of a real police force when ther's any trouble.........</div>
<p><br/> <br/> <cite>Bijou said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?xg_source=activity#2323372Comment47019"><div><div class="xg_user_generated">Spoke to a nice police inspector just now, re the party in the club....I can't say what we said but, needless to say, who ever took the booking for this event should be held responsible!!!</div>
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</blockquote> How WRONG you are Tim!
Th…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-21:2323372:Comment:471872015-08-21T13:46:45.478ZAlan Linehttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/AlanLine
<p>How <strong>WRONG</strong> you are Tim! </p>
<p>The Community Centre Bar is used by <strong>LOTS</strong> of people on this Estate - most weeknights GLE residents like myself are a large and clear majority of users! We might not mouth off all the time like the wannabe wealthy leaseholders who think they have bought a bit of the BARBICAN on the cheap when in fact they live on a council Estate but we live here too (and have done for longer than most leaseholders). The Club was here…</p>
<p>How <strong>WRONG</strong> you are Tim! </p>
<p>The Community Centre Bar is used by <strong>LOTS</strong> of people on this Estate - most weeknights GLE residents like myself are a large and clear majority of users! We might not mouth off all the time like the wannabe wealthy leaseholders who think they have bought a bit of the BARBICAN on the cheap when in fact they live on a council Estate but we live here too (and have done for longer than most leaseholders). The Club was here when you bought your leases - so live with it eh!</p>
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<p><cite>Tim Chapple said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?id=2323372%3ATopic%3A47014&page=2#2323372Comment46943"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>It was truly awful last Sunday evening: dreadful noise until 3am, men urinating around Bayer House and damage to my 'garden' form presumably, people 'sitting' on the seats below. My neighbours who leave very early for work, were kept up all night. 'It won't happen again' they keep saying, the point is why was it allowed to happen in the first place? Disgraceful. Essentially we have a pub on a housing estate which no one here uses. I thought it was a community centre.</p>
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</blockquote> On bookings, Yes, I was told…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-14:2323372:Comment:468642015-08-14T12:00:26.849ZNico Macdonaldhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/NicoMacdonald
<p>On bookings, Yes, I was told be the Estate Office: </p>
<blockquote><p><span>apart from one commitment this Saturday which has been reviewed in light of what happened, evening bookings in general are being put on hold for the immediate future at least</span></p>
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<p>Christine: Did you take part in the consultation on the future of the Community Centre the other month? It was quite thought-provoking in terms of possible future uses and models of running. I haven't had any…</p>
<p>On bookings, Yes, I was told be the Estate Office: </p>
<blockquote><p><span>apart from one commitment this Saturday which has been reviewed in light of what happened, evening bookings in general are being put on hold for the immediate future at least</span></p>
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<p>Christine: Did you take part in the consultation on the future of the Community Centre the other month? It was quite thought-provoking in terms of possible future uses and models of running. I haven't had any follow-up on that, and sense that being proactive is necessary. </p>
<p>I've been quite inspired by the growth of <a href="http://www.slpt.org.uk/" target="_blank">St Luke's Community Centre</a> and, while our Community Centre differs in many ways (not least in not having land to sell to fund development), I'm sure there's much to be learned from its success. </p> That's the 'standard' reply I…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-13:2323372:Comment:470312015-08-13T19:01:47.702ZMaria Elizabeth Priorhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/MariaElizabethPrior
<p>That's the 'standard' reply I got too. I would like to know what 'concerned parties' is meant, and why such a situation was allowed to happen in the first place. Will be in touch with the rest of the Committee and report back as soon as possible. </p>
<p>That's the 'standard' reply I got too. I would like to know what 'concerned parties' is meant, and why such a situation was allowed to happen in the first place. Will be in touch with the rest of the Committee and report back as soon as possible. </p> Thanks Maria. It wasn't actua…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-13:2323372:Comment:470302015-08-13T18:33:46.246ZNico Macdonaldhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/NicoMacdonald
<p>Thanks Maria. It wasn't actually Laurence who responded, but I was told: </p>
<blockquote><p><span>Laurence is (and has been since we became aware of the occurrence) working with all concerned parties to ensure that controls are in place to avoid another situation like this</span></p>
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<p><br></br> I will be interested to learn of any response from the <span>Golden Lane Committee. </span></p>
<p><br></br> <cite>Maria Elizabeth Prior said:…</cite></p>
<p>Thanks Maria. It wasn't actually Laurence who responded, but I was told: </p>
<blockquote><p><span>Laurence is (and has been since we became aware of the occurrence) working with all concerned parties to ensure that controls are in place to avoid another situation like this</span></p>
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<p><br/> I will be interested to learn of any response from the <span>Golden Lane Committee. </span></p>
<p><br/> <cite>Maria Elizabeth Prior said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://goldenlane.ning.com/forum/topics/the-community-centre-bar?commentId=2323372%3AComment%3A46859&xg_source=msg_com_forum#2323372Comment46947"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Hi Nico. I was was told by the Estate Office that Laurence Jones was 'dealing' with the issue. However, as he was not affected personally by any of this mayhem, then I would have hoped that you would have got something better than a 'non committal reply. I shall be taking this up with the rest of the Golden Lane Committee. (Not to be confused with the Bar Committee, whoever they are.)</p>
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</blockquote> Hi Nico. I was was told by t…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-13:2323372:Comment:469472015-08-13T11:58:51.426ZMaria Elizabeth Priorhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/MariaElizabethPrior
<p>Hi Nico. I was was told by the Estate Office that Laurence Jones was 'dealing' with the issue. However, as he was not affected personally by any of this mayhem, then I would have hoped that you would have got something better than a 'non committal reply. I shall be taking this up with the rest of the Golden Lane Committee. (Not to be confused with the Bar Committee, whoever they are.)</p>
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<p>Hi Nico. I was was told by the Estate Office that Laurence Jones was 'dealing' with the issue. However, as he was not affected personally by any of this mayhem, then I would have hoped that you would have got something better than a 'non committal reply. I shall be taking this up with the rest of the Golden Lane Committee. (Not to be confused with the Bar Committee, whoever they are.)</p>
<p></p> I have to agree with Tim and…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-13:2323372:Comment:468592015-08-13T11:05:14.455ZPablo Casais Solanohttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/PabloCasais
<p>I have to agree with Tim and Nico. I don't understand why this is happening and I hope actions are being taken to avoid it. Maybe is time to ask for controls on who access the community centre bar and avoid sell alcohol to those who cause trouble.</p>
<p>Also I have to say that I felt left down by the actions of the Police. Instead of taking action and ask them to leave they just stood there without addressing the issue or enforcing the law. Really shameful to see that when there is an issue…</p>
<p>I have to agree with Tim and Nico. I don't understand why this is happening and I hope actions are being taken to avoid it. Maybe is time to ask for controls on who access the community centre bar and avoid sell alcohol to those who cause trouble.</p>
<p>Also I have to say that I felt left down by the actions of the Police. Instead of taking action and ask them to leave they just stood there without addressing the issue or enforcing the law. Really shameful to see that when there is an issue we are on our own.</p> I duly reported our experienc…tag:goldenlaneestate.org,2015-08-13:2323372:Comment:467372015-08-13T10:58:25.497ZNico Macdonaldhttp://goldenlaneestate.org/profile/NicoMacdonald
<div>I duly reported our experience to the Estate Office and got a prompt, if rather non-committal reply. I think it would be appropriate for the Office to report to the residents on what happened, and indicate what steps the Community Centre committee in particular will be taking to better deal with (or avoid) such situations. Apart from anything, I'd like to know where the staff were who had been responsible for the Centre while the group was using it. </div>
<div>I duly reported our experience to the Estate Office and got a prompt, if rather non-committal reply. I think it would be appropriate for the Office to report to the residents on what happened, and indicate what steps the Community Centre committee in particular will be taking to better deal with (or avoid) such situations. Apart from anything, I'd like to know where the staff were who had been responsible for the Centre while the group was using it. </div>